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Why Super Zix instead of Revivogen? How are the results? Experiences?

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by Jacob » August 4, 2008 at 8:37 pm #93313

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Once again Jacob…you fail to convince me of the benfits of liposomes.
Emulsifiers accomplish the very same thing with lipids. Zinc can be delivered to the skin cells without this technology.

We can deliver all our components using three things. Alcohol, an emulsifier and water. Liposome is just a hype word.

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You really need to read up on the tech. BTW..one thing I love about nanosomes is their time-release up to 12 hours and beyond. Makes using more than one topical an easier decision.

“And I’m “arguing” with somebody who doesn’t even think there’s hope for regrowing hair unless it’s very recently lost…only holding unto what we have.”

And where’s the evidence that we can?

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Myself..plenty of others. But as I said in the fibrosis thread..you’re probably never going to know if you keep using the same few ingreds all the time.

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by Jacob » August 4, 2008 at 9:05 pm #93322

I asked over at Elsom. Didn’t use your name or anything..I’m curious how he’ll respond. I know he’ll be able to explain it better than me re-reading his pages and typing it out here

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by amsch » August 5, 2008 at 1:39 am #93328

Has there been a report that ZIX worked for someone where Revivogen failed?

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by Zix creator » August 5, 2008 at 6:33 am #93334

Hi Amsch

“Has there been a report that ZIX worked for someone where Revivogen failed?”

Yes there have been posts stating just that several times.

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by amsch » August 5, 2008 at 7:36 am #93335

Thanks zix creator! Any names? You know, i must be a bit sceptical because you’re the one who created zix ;-) (don’t get me wrong).

And what actually makes Zix better?

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by Zix creator » August 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm #93367

amsch…please go to my site and send me an e-mail. I have some ideas to “kick around” with you.

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by Lakers » August 5, 2008 at 1:02 pm #93368

Jacob, unfortunately I’ve been to hairlosstalk, YES. I’ve read a review from a guy that said he maintained his hair after using it for quite some time. That was about it. Nothing really, if you ask me. Also, Revivogen staff is somewhat shady as proven at this site and others.

The reason I even commented on this topic was because at one point I was very interested in using revivogen. I was somewhat skeptical of the product for a few reasons. Mainly because of how long it had been around, because of the poor positive feedback on the hair loss boards, and the uneducated sales pitch replies from revivogen staff. I’d say for every potive post there were at least ten stating revivogens ineffectiveness.I know that these boards aren’t an accurate gauge of whether or not a product is effective but i do believe it gives you a rough idea.

Are you a fan of thier recent study Jacob? the one stating over 90% DHT block in vitro. AA has studies showing the same effectiveness(all by itself)if im not mistaken.

PS I realize AA is one of thier ingredients…My point is thier company seems to be all marketing. The combination of ingredients have no proven synergy. Eveidenced by lack of results from the same number that is found to block dht .

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by Jacob » August 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm #93380

Oh come on Joe..post it here

Lakers..as I said..I am NOT a fan of Revivogen or those involved with it. I posted about my experience after questioning their new ingreds(that they were added after nothing else was needed to make it better, supposedly. It has to do with the study you mention..for one)- I got a trojan sent my way via the HLT forum there.

But there is more than one positive(not zero)- whether they can be believed or not. They did add two new ingredients. And they do use liposomes.

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by dilbert » August 5, 2008 at 5:12 pm #93382

I thought the primary ingredients in Revivogen that are used to address DHT were the fatty acids which are not even contained in Super Zix? From my understanding the amount Saw Palmetto/Beta Sis contained in Revivogen is negligible and is not even considered by the creator to be a primary or possibly even necessary igredient. I’m not understanding why these two products are being compared when their main ingredients are different.

..and why are people making such a big deal about Revivogen containing liposomes?— if you go to their website they don’t even advertise them and make no claims that the product is more effective because of them. I don’t even think most people know that Revivogen has liposomes. I can’t even find the word used once on their website.

Joe–no offense but regarding your following comment: “Make a great looking website……throw in a bunch of pseudoscience horseshit…..” Other than the lower cost of your products, how is this any different from what you do?

By the way, I don’t use either product and would probably never even use Revivogen due to the outrageous cost, but the science behind it is just as “valid” as the science behind Super-zix.

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by Jacob » August 5, 2008 at 9:24 pm #93400

They do talk about liposomes on their website. One such place is here(scroll down):

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by dilbert » August 6, 2008 at 7:17 pm #93515

Jacob said:
They do talk about liposomes on their website. One such place is here(scroll down):

Thanks—I missed that. They don’t seem to make a big deal of them though, so the hostility toward their use kind of confused me—not like other products that tout their use of liposomes and nanosomes like they were the second coming of Christ.

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by amsch » August 7, 2008 at 1:35 am #93558

Confused what do do

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by wcares » August 7, 2008 at 10:48 am #93592

I have not used Revivogen hence cannot comment on its effectiveness. Has been using Super Zix II for couple of months definitely seeing improvement.

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by Lakers » August 10, 2008 at 10:34 pm #93888

Good to know Wcares I’ve just begun superzix2 a week ago. . Did you go through a shed? What else in your regimen?

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by Zix creator » August 11, 2008 at 5:34 am #93896

Anything that is working can cause a shed.

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