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by JJB9050 » December 16, 2008 at 8:41 pm #106949

I believe my discovery could in the long run lead to a conclusion on whether this plays a role in hair loss, read on….

Ok guys, so ever since puberty I’ve had acne and then eventually MPB starting at about 18 (I’m now 22) with neither of these strongly occuring on my mom or dad’s side. For the longest time the only thing that helped was fish oil. Even into my twenties I’d get back acne, chest acne, leg acne and I have blackheads on my nose. I also weight train and I figured the hormonal/inflammation situation leading to acne is similarly causing my hairloss.

I’d go through periods where the acne finally cleared up, only to return again later for no apparent reason. I also eat very healthy. Well when dieting down for fat loss I was eating very few carbs and maybe only an occasional single piece of fruit and my acne was all clearing up. Later when I eased off the diet it seemed to have come back mildly. To make a long story short, I figured out that fruits seem to make me break out.

I did a test where I ate a bunch of starches and dextrose in addition to fatty meats and a fructose free protein powder for almost a week and my acne gradually was clearing up. Then, I did a day where I ate a bunch of fruits (and a protein powder containing fructose) and on that very day I started to get red inflammed spots on my legs and had new pimples that day after. Then I went back off fruits and anything with sucrose (half fructose) and it’s all clearing up again with little sign of anything returning. I don’t know if it’s the fructose or some other component in fruits (or certain fruits) such as a particular acid, but all this time my “healthy” eating was the problem. What made this so hard to discover was that I figured starches, high glycemic carbs, dairy, or something else was the cause but none of these things seem to affect me the way fruit does (or at all).

This could just be a unique sensitivity of mine, but considering how much fructose people ingest in the typical western diet either through sucrose or high fructose corn syrup and the correlation between a western diet and acne, I figured this might be the problem for many people as it’s pretty unnatural. I’m going to go off all fructose and fruit (probably adding more vegetables and antioxidants to compensate) and give my body time to repair. Hopefully I can add moderate amounts of fruit back in the future. I also come from european ancestory (pale with light hair and blue eyes) so maybe my ancestors came from a cold climate with little fruit intake. It’s also possible I just ate so much sugar in my past that my body can’t even handle fruit anymore. Plus our modern fruits have more sugar than they used to.

As for the relevance to all of you, since acne clears up faster than hair regrows, I’ll have to see if this plays a role in helping my hair but it certainly can’t hurt the situation. My advice, avoid added sucrose, added fructose, HFCS, and eat fruits in moderation.

Here are some good articles I found.

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by jdp710 » December 16, 2008 at 10:12 pm #106967

“Demodex mites feed on systemic yeast, dietary yeast and/or sugar in the system.”

demodexsolutions.com says 90% of all acne is from demodex … 10% bacteria

just a thought

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by Jacob » December 17, 2008 at 9:24 am #107030

And over here they say………

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by BaldAndTheBeautifull » December 17, 2008 at 10:17 am #107035

I also come from european ancestory (pale with light hair and blue eyes) so maybe my ancestors came from a cold climate with little fruit intake.

Culturally the Nordic peoples DO NOT eat a lot of fruit (very cold climate). They eat a lot of fish , drink a lot of milk, cheeses and eat veggies that grow in winter, like sprouts and andyvi. I eat a lot of those veggies and let me tell ya.

I FEEL LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS (inflation corrected).

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by ihastemples » December 17, 2008 at 11:17 am #107044

Are you sure you’re talking about organic stuff?

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by Lapwing » December 17, 2008 at 11:53 am #107047

The earth is a sphere!? My discovery…

This has been talked about here and many other places before for at least 10 years now on the internet and it probably dates back to the ancient greeks…

BandtheB, I am guessing your Nordic diet has had little effect on your hair then?

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by JJB9050 » December 17, 2008 at 12:24 pm #107051

I know it seems like such an obvious conclusion, but when you consider the years spent avoiding any junk food, starches, and even trying an all organic cleansing diet to clear myself to no avail, it’s like a revelation that something I considered inherently healthy could be causing problems even in “moderate” amounts.

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by JJB9050 » December 17, 2008 at 12:33 pm #107054

“Lapwing said:
The earth is a sphere!? My discovery…

This has been talked about here and many other places before for at least 10 years now on the internet and it probably dates back to the ancient greeks…

I’m aware of what has been talked about here and other places. The point of this thread was that I found out what works for “me” personally, not that I was the first to come up with this or that this discovery about sugar is unique to myself. The discovery that I’m claiming is a personal one about how my body works. I don’t think the greeks were talking about JJB’s body chemistry. Sugars and fructose and the effects they have have been studied long before I was born. I even posted links to other websites talking about this very subject. I just want to share with you guys so you can see if this information is helpful in your own path to health and hair.

I scrupulously avoided a lot of junk and refined sugars, but the fact that only a relatively small amount of fruit is needed to break me out is a discovery unique to my body that obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but which may be helpful in understanding that it doesn’t take as much of something as one might think to do harm.

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by Lapwing » December 17, 2008 at 1:56 pm #107067

Hey JJB9050,

I agree with you on that a lot of people don’t realize how radical their diet has to change for it to be effective. You should check out IH’s site, there is lot of discussion on diets etc that has moved over there.

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by FrankBuzin » December 18, 2008 at 12:27 am #107160

I’ve been limiting my sugars, esp fructose and galactose… and keeping these intake away from protein as much as possible. These links from 2006 about AGEs explain why:

And then there are these to name a few more:

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by Chargers 21 » December 18, 2008 at 12:44 am #107161

the earth is not a sphere LOL its an ellipsoid

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by Lapwing » December 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm #107187

Actually it is a flattened ellipsoid with a bulging equator…not unlike many americans…

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by JJB9050 » December 18, 2008 at 5:00 pm #107200

“FrankBuzin said:
I’ve been limiting my sugars, esp fructose and galactose… and keeping these intake away from protein as much as possible. These links from 2006 about AGEs explain why:

And then there are these to name a few more:

I’ve considered AGEs as a possible suspect after realizing how fruits affected me. These were great articles, thanks!

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by JJB9050 » September 7, 2009 at 7:22 pm #130135

UPDATE:

Fructose doesn’t pose a problem nor do sugars. It’s something else. I’ve yet to find the cause, but fruits, veges, and meats are all safe foods.


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by Regrowth.com Webmaster » September 7, 2009 at 10:21 pm #130140

Not sure if I can contribute too much to help you other than saying what you eat one day should not cause it to be worse the next day or vice versa… acne is a long term process it does not pop up in just one day or go away in a day. I also found this online:

Myth #2: Acne is caused by diet. Extensive scientific studies have not found a connection between diet and acne. In other words, food does not cause acne. Not chocolate. Not french fries. Not pizza. Nonetheless, some people insist that certain foods affect their acne. In that case, avoid those foods. Besides, eating a balanced diet always makes sense. However, according to the scientific evidence, if acne is being treated properly, there’s no need to worry about food affecting the acne.


Blame it on the m-m-m-minoxidilll

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